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| Make new branch the default branch, but make the releases clearly visible on the frontpage || ASAP || CSTB | | Make new branch the default branch, but make the releases clearly visible on the frontpage || ASAP || CSTB | ||
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| Feedback on availability for the next workshop : Options November 7, 8, 14, 15 or Decembre 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 || ASAP || All partners | | Feedback on availability for the next workshop : Options November 7, 8, 14, 15 or Decembre 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 || ASAP || All partners | ||
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| Codelist : Agree on high-level values|| Before next workshop || | | Codelist : Agree on high-level values. Plan an online meeting|| Before next workshop || Luca, Usman, Lydia CSTB, Emilien CSTB, Romain, Mariam, Joachim | ||
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| Dedicated WG/online meeting on simulation results and measurements + create milestone on Github || Before next workshop || | | Dedicated WG/online meeting on simulation results and measurements + create milestone on Github || Before next workshop || Kanishk, Joachim, Pascal, Romain | ||
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| | | Guidelines and testing automation : create stand alone sample files with explicit names to be as example|| Before next workshop || All WG | ||
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<b>[mailto:romain.nouvel@hft-stuttgart.de Romain Nouvel]</b> (HFT Stuttgart)<br/> | <b>[mailto:romain.nouvel@hft-stuttgart.de Romain Nouvel]</b> (HFT Stuttgart)<br/> | ||
<i>Presentation:</i> [[media:20170523_Introduction_EnergyADE_Grenoble.pdf| PDF file]] of the slides<br/> | <i>Presentation:</i> [[media:20170523_Introduction_EnergyADE_Grenoble.pdf| PDF file]] of the slides<br/> | ||
===== Mentimeter quiz on: ===== | |||
* [https://www.mentimeter.com/s/c9233944c727b849b270bfa51bc71283/10b7d24bf1c7 CityGML Energy ADE for you... ] | |||
* [https://www.mentimeter.com/s/c9233944c727b849b270bfa51bc71283/369d61b8e1c6 Priorities for the next semester?] : Make ADE test cases! | |||
===== Activity : ===== | |||
* Activity (measured on GitHub activity) is not constant; attendance to workshops is diminishing -> Would be nice to integrate work on energy ADE into projects, to have time and budget (work on ADE is not only standardization, but also interoperability) | |||
* Many companies/countries are interested, but not necessarily active… -> Build interest through common publications for example | |||
===== Organisation : ===== | |||
* Wiki page: http://en.wiki.energy.sig3d.org | |||
* 4 working groups with each 2 coordinators: | |||
* Building physics: Romain & Mostafa | |||
* Occupancy: Piergiorio & Giorgio | |||
* Energy use and systems: Moritz & Silvia | |||
* Time-dependant data: Alexandru & Kanishk | |||
* Technical committee in charge of XML schema: Joachim & Elisa | |||
Problem: there are often collisions between several issues | Problem: there are often collisions between several issues | ||
===== Process: ===== | |||
* General: | |||
** Issue created on Github | |||
** Discussion ongoing, including a feedback from technical committee which has the global overview | |||
** When discussion has found a consensus, add a “validated by WG” tag | |||
** TC: Go to modelisation | |||
** WG: actualize guidelines in the corresponding Github branch, including examples (doc/guidelines/Guidelines_EnergyADE.md, linked to figures in /fig) | |||
** If need be: feedback from WG, changes by TC | |||
* Github branches: | |||
** Master branch = current validated version (today 0.8) | |||
** When new branch (0.9) is stabilized (including guidelines), merge it to master branch | |||
** NB: make new branch the default branch, but make the releases clearly visible on the frontpage | |||
===== Deadlines:===== | |||
* mid-June: Github issues | |||
* July: draft modelisation (Joachim) | |||
* end-July: edit guidelines by WG (in parallel to modelisation) -> edits can be suggested directly into issues, so update is easy and quick a validation by all | |||
* Mid-August: release of .xsd and guidelines | |||
===== Timeline for v1.0 : ===== | |||
Before v1.0 there needs to be testing on real case tools… we need to accelerate on this in upcoming semester | |||
* Proposals for modeling changes: | |||
** Energy and system | |||
** Q/ how to integrate simulation data? With Dynamizer module? | |||
** Q/ management of codelists -> WG | |||
===== Apache license 2.0: ===== | |||
* Objective: protect our development, before it becomes an OGC standard | |||
* Implications: anyone can use it, but need to integrate a specific text in header of documents (text quotes license and participant organisations with email contact) | |||
* In order to go forward: | |||
** Mustafa needs an explicit email agreement from each participant partner | |||
** We need to agree on which organizations should be quoted in license (some participate to workshops but are not active, and some are active but do not participate to workshop) -> criteria proposal: regularly active on Github, reactive to emails (to be discussed further) | |||
===== Next meeting: Karlsruhe ===== | |||
* Options: 7, 8, 14, 15 November; 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 December | |||
* Provide feedback to Romain on availability | |||
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==== | ==== Codelist concrete implementation ==== | ||
<b>[mailto: | <b>[mailto:luca.giovannini@dedagroup.it Luca Giovannini]</b> (Dedagroup Public Sector & Utilities)<br/> | ||
<i>Presentation:</i> [[media: | <i>Presentation:</i> [[media:WG_Occupancy_-_Codelists.pdf| PDF file]] of the slides<br/> | ||
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* | Working document on [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QosN8dEW757ht1OqTdTOicw2Yy57syTqrXZA3tcAVUY/edit#gid=928437924 Google doc] | ||
* | ===== To do : ===== | ||
* | * Link to be added in GitHub readme | ||
* Add a column “source” or “reference” | |||
* Verify English translations | |||
* Discuss unclear points | |||
* Designate one person per language | |||
===== Discussion: ===== | |||
* BuildingTypeValue: | |||
** Source: physical architecture typology comes frome TABULA project (now EPISCOPE) | |||
** Issues: Make all labels identical: “XX building” | |||
* Agree on high-level values -> plan an online meeting (Usman, Lydia CSTB, Emilien CSTB, Romain, Mariam, Joachim) | |||
* Create expanded version (subvalues) for more clarity, precision? -> discussion on subvalues for next version | |||
* CurrentUseValue: | |||
** Source: Geomark city project | |||
* See: CityGML codelist (Joachim to provide URL link) | |||
* EnergySourceValue: | |||
** Work on definitions needed -> all | |||
* OccupantTypeValue: | |||
** Work on definitions needed -> all | |||
* OfficialAreaReferenceValue: | |||
** Issue: not one national way to measure net surface -> should use possibility to define surface type | |||
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==== | ==== Store Energy Simulation results / inputs ==== | ||
<b>[mailto: | <b>[mailto:joachim.benner@kit.edu Joachim Benner ]</b> (KIT)<br/> | ||
<i>Presentation:</i> [[media: | <i>Presentation:</i> [[media:KIT-Proposals-EnergyADE.pdf| PDF file]] of the slides<br/> | ||
===== Issues : ===== | |||
* | * Automatic generation of a diagram legend -> optional character string “thematicDescription” in TimeSeriesProperties (a dataType does not have a gml_name!) | ||
** | ** WeatherData -> need to be aggregated in a WeatherStation | ||
** | ** Q/ generalization to noise etc.? -> this is domain specific (inside Energy ADE) | ||
** | ** Q/ what if sensor inside building? -> not weather… | ||
* | ** Q/ context can sometimes have a big impact on measurements -> add a human-readable description for all additional info | ||
** | ** Q/ will there be a Sensor module in CityGML 3.0? -> No… | ||
** | * EnergySimulationResults: metadata, link to raw data, … | ||
** | ** Q/ what conceptual difference between simulated and measured data? -> none, but it is difficult to work on too generic feature types -> Pb: some simulation outputs are inputs for other simulations -> this is simulation metadata (input data, simulation model used, date…) | ||
** Add a code snipet, or contact person? | |||
** Value: can be Measure or TimeSeries -> include only aggregated values in CityGML? -> Pb: co-simulation needs the extensive simulation results | |||
* -> Need to look into the Sensor ML (with metadata, sensor can be real or virtual) + Observations ML (supports external references), which are parts of Sensor Observation Service -> dedicated WG/online meeting on simulation results and measurements (Kanishk, Joachim, Pascal, Romain) + create a milestone on Github linked to all related issues, with definition of both “measurements” and “results” | |||
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==== | ==== PostgreSQL-based extension 3DCityDB for energy ADE 0.8.0 ==== | ||
<b>[mailto: | <b>[mailto:Giorgio.Agugiaro@ait.ac.at Giorgio Agugiaro]</b> (AIT)<br/> | ||
<i>Presentation:</i> [[media: | <i>Presentation:</i> [[media:20170523_Agugiaro_Energy_ADE_Workshop_7_3DCityDB.pdf| PDF file]] of the slides<br/> | ||
* | * Growing demand for an ADE-aware DB solution | ||
* | * Design criteria | ||
* | * Implementation steps | ||
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==== | ==== Temporal data and Dynamizer Module ==== | ||
<b>[mailto: | <b>[mailto:kanishk.chaturvedi@tum.de Kanishk Chaturvedi]</b> (TUM)<br/> | ||
<i>Presentation:</i> [[media: | <i>Presentation:</i> [[media:Dynamizer_Kanishk_Chaturvedi.pdf| PDF file]] of the slides<br/> | ||
* | * “Mini Sensor Observation Service” (mini SOS): lightweight service | ||
* | ** work with arbitrary tabular data source (including ADE Dynamizer) | ||
* | ** provide multiple interfaces | ||
* | * -> explicit link to Sensor | ||
* | ** “getSensorObservation” | ||
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==== | ==== Testing automation (Pascal – CSTB) ==== | ||
<b>[mailto: | <b>[mailto:pascal.schetelat@cstb.fr Pascal Schetelat]</b> (CSTB)<br/> | ||
<i>Presentation:</i> [[media: | <i>Presentation:</i> [[media:2017_05_22_ADE_testing_automation.pdf| PDF file]] of the slides<br/> | ||
* | Motivation: ensure coherence in the GitHub repository (UML file, guidelines, sample files, 3DCityDB SQL schema) | ||
* | * Testing what can be automated : | ||
* | * Test sample files against latest energy.xsd schema implemented on the GitHub repository | ||
* | * For all WG: create sample files with explicit names so they can be both tested and integrated into the guidelines | ||
* Schematron compliance | |||
** Works in principle, but little practical impact because very simple | |||
** More useful would be geometric checking… but this would need a geometric module | |||
* Generation of 3DCityDB SQL schema? -> Not yet | |||
* 3D Validation : can City Dr be used ? | |||
* Class generation for different languages? -> Interests in Java and Python | |||
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==== | ==== Feedback on Energy ADE application in simulation tools (Joachim – KIT and Jérôme – Kaemco) ==== | ||
<b>[mailto: | <b>[mailto:joachim.benner@kit.edu Joachim – KIT and Jérôme – Kaemco ]</b> (KIT / Kaemco)<br/> | ||
<i>Presentation:</i> [[media: | <i>Presentation:</i> [[media:KIT-EnergySimulation-Workflow.pdf| PDF file]] of the slides<br/> | ||
* | * GUI for manual enrichment of CityGML files | ||
* | * Use of CityGML LoD2: compromise between availability and functionality | ||
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Latest revision as of 13:21, 5 June 2017
TODO List
| WHAT | WHEN | WHO |
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| Make new branch the default branch, but make the releases clearly visible on the frontpage | ASAP | CSTB |
| Agree on partners listed in the licence | ASAP | All WG leaders |
| Give written accord to the Apache Licence | ASAP | All listed partners |
| Feedback on availability for the next workshop : Options November 7, 8, 14, 15 or Decembre 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 | ASAP | All partners |
| Codelist : Agree on high-level values. Plan an online meeting | Before next workshop | Luca, Usman, Lydia CSTB, Emilien CSTB, Romain, Mariam, Joachim |
| Dedicated WG/online meeting on simulation results and measurements + create milestone on Github | Before next workshop | Kanishk, Joachim, Pascal, Romain |
| Guidelines and testing automation : create stand alone sample files with explicit names to be as example | Before next workshop | All WG |
Notes
Presentations and Minutes
Welcome on behalf CSTB + Presentation of Activities of CSTB relying on CityGMLPascal Schetelat (CSTB)
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Report on the last semester (All WG leaders)Romain Nouvel (HFT Stuttgart) Mentimeter quiz on:
Activity :
Organisation :
Problem: there are often collisions between several issues Process:
Deadlines:
Timeline for v1.0 :Before v1.0 there needs to be testing on real case tools… we need to accelerate on this in upcoming semester
Apache license 2.0:
Next meeting: Karlsruhe
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Codelist concrete implementationLuca Giovannini (Dedagroup Public Sector & Utilities) Working document on Google doc To do :
Discussion:
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Store Energy Simulation results / inputsJoachim Benner (KIT) Issues :
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PostgreSQL-based extension 3DCityDB for energy ADE 0.8.0Giorgio Agugiaro (AIT)
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Temporal data and Dynamizer ModuleKanishk Chaturvedi (TUM)
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Testing automation (Pascal – CSTB)Pascal Schetelat (CSTB)
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Feedback on Energy ADE application in simulation tools (Joachim – KIT and Jérôme – Kaemco)Joachim – KIT and Jérôme – Kaemco (KIT / Kaemco)
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