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| Feedback on availability for the next workshop : Options November 7, 8, 14, 15 or Decembre 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 || ASAP || All partners | | Feedback on availability for the next workshop : Options November 7, 8, 14, 15 or Decembre 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 || ASAP || All partners | ||
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− | | Codelist : Agree on high-level values|| Before next workshop || | + | | Codelist : Agree on high-level values. Plan an online meeting|| Before next workshop || Luca, Usman, Lydia CSTB, Emilien CSTB, Romain, Mariam, Joachim |
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− | | Dedicated WG/online meeting on simulation results and measurements + create milestone on Github || Before next workshop || | + | | Dedicated WG/online meeting on simulation results and measurements + create milestone on Github || Before next workshop || Kanishk, Joachim, Pascal, Romain |
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− | ==== Welcome | + | ==== Welcome on behalf CSTB + Presentation of Activities of CSTB relying on CityGML ==== |
<b>[mailto:pascal.schetelat@cstb.fr Pascal Schetelat]</b> (CSTB)<br/> | <b>[mailto:pascal.schetelat@cstb.fr Pascal Schetelat]</b> (CSTB)<br/> | ||
<i>Presentation:</i> [[media:2017_05_22_ADE_Welcome.pdf| PDF file]] of the slides<br/> | <i>Presentation:</i> [[media:2017_05_22_ADE_Welcome.pdf| PDF file]] of the slides<br/> | ||
* Brief welcome <br/> | * Brief welcome <br/> | ||
* Presentation of CityGML related work at CSTB<br/> | * Presentation of CityGML related work at CSTB<br/> | ||
+ | ** unification of data models across domain specific studies | ||
+ | ** developing custom ADEs for specific simulation tools’ needs, integrated to public ADEs when worth sharing | ||
+ | ** biggest challenge: filling the gaps in data! Not reading it! | ||
+ | * Presentation of EveBIM software: | ||
+ | ** reads IFC and cityGML (visualization purposes) | ||
+ | ** many plug-ins for simulation | ||
+ | ** [http://editions.cstb.fr/Products/eveBIM-Viewer.html freely downloadable on CSTB website] | ||
+ | * CSTB Wishlist : | ||
+ | ** a nice way to store ADE files in database | ||
+ | ** a material module independent from energy ADE for cross domain studies -> not planned as yet | ||
+ | ** unique ID reference for materials, collecting all domain specific parameters. On independent ADE -> on unique ID, ongoing work: referent = Thomas Kolbe | ||
+ | ** idem, independent module for occupancy module -> not planned as yet | ||
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− | ==== | + | ==== Report on the last semester (All WG leaders) ==== |
− | <b>[mailto: | + | <b>[mailto:romain.nouvel@hft-stuttgart.de Romain Nouvel]</b> (HFT Stuttgart)<br/> |
− | <i>Presentation:</i> [[media: | + | <i>Presentation:</i> [[media:20170523_Introduction_EnergyADE_Grenoble.pdf| PDF file]] of the slides<br/> |
− | * | + | ===== Mentimeter quiz on: ===== |
− | * | + | * [https://www.mentimeter.com/s/c9233944c727b849b270bfa51bc71283/10b7d24bf1c7 CityGML Energy ADE for you... ] |
− | ** | + | * [https://www.mentimeter.com/s/c9233944c727b849b270bfa51bc71283/369d61b8e1c6 Priorities for the next semester?] : Make ADE test cases! |
− | ** | + | ===== Activity : ===== |
− | ** | + | * Activity (measured on GitHub activity) is not constant; attendance to workshops is diminishing -> Would be nice to integrate work on energy ADE into projects, to have time and budget (work on ADE is not only standardization, but also interoperability) |
− | ** | + | * Many companies/countries are interested, but not necessarily active… -> Build interest through common publications for example |
− | * | + | ===== Organisation : ===== |
+ | * Wiki page: http://en.wiki.energy.sig3d.org | ||
+ | * 4 working groups with each 2 coordinators: | ||
+ | * Building physics: Romain & Mostafa | ||
+ | * Occupancy: Piergiorio & Giorgio | ||
+ | * Energy use and systems: Moritz & Silvia | ||
+ | * Time-dependant data: Alexandru & Kanishk | ||
+ | * Technical committee in charge of XML schema: Joachim & Elisa | ||
+ | Problem: there are often collisions between several issues | ||
+ | ===== Process: ===== | ||
+ | * General: | ||
+ | ** Issue created on Github | ||
+ | ** Discussion ongoing, including a feedback from technical committee which has the global overview | ||
+ | ** When discussion has found a consensus, add a “validated by WG” tag | ||
+ | ** TC: Go to modelisation | ||
+ | ** WG: actualize guidelines in the corresponding Github branch, including examples (doc/guidelines/Guidelines_EnergyADE.md, linked to figures in /fig) | ||
+ | ** If need be: feedback from WG, changes by TC | ||
+ | * Github branches: | ||
+ | ** Master branch = current validated version (today 0.8) | ||
+ | ** When new branch (0.9) is stabilized (including guidelines), merge it to master branch | ||
+ | ** NB: make new branch the default branch, but make the releases clearly visible on the frontpage | ||
+ | ===== Deadlines:===== | ||
+ | * mid-June: Github issues | ||
+ | * July: draft modelisation (Joachim) | ||
+ | * end-July: edit guidelines by WG (in parallel to modelisation) -> edits can be suggested directly into issues, so update is easy and quick a validation by all | ||
+ | * Mid-August: release of .xsd and guidelines | ||
+ | ===== Timeline for v1.0 : ===== | ||
+ | Before v1.0 there needs to be testing on real case tools… we need to accelerate on this in upcoming semester | ||
+ | * Proposals for modeling changes: | ||
+ | ** Energy and system | ||
+ | ** Q/ how to integrate simulation data? With Dynamizer module? | ||
+ | ** Q/ management of codelists -> WG | ||
+ | ===== Apache license 2.0: ===== | ||
+ | * Objective: protect our development, before it becomes an OGC standard | ||
+ | * Implications: anyone can use it, but need to integrate a specific text in header of documents (text quotes license and participant organisations with email contact) | ||
+ | * In order to go forward: | ||
+ | ** Mustafa needs an explicit email agreement from each participant partner | ||
+ | ** We need to agree on which organizations should be quoted in license (some participate to workshops but are not active, and some are active but do not participate to workshop) -> criteria proposal: regularly active on Github, reactive to emails (to be discussed further) | ||
+ | ===== Next meeting: Karlsruhe ===== | ||
+ | * Options: 7, 8, 14, 15 November; 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 December | ||
+ | * Provide feedback to Romain on availability | ||
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− | ==== | + | ==== Codelist concrete implementation ==== |
− | <b>[mailto: | + | <b>[mailto:luca.giovannini@dedagroup.it Luca Giovannini]</b> (Dedagroup Public Sector & Utilities)<br/> |
− | <i>Presentation:</i> [[media: | + | <i>Presentation:</i> [[media:WG_Occupancy_-_Codelists.pdf| PDF file]] of the slides<br/> |
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− | * | + | Working document on [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QosN8dEW757ht1OqTdTOicw2Yy57syTqrXZA3tcAVUY/edit#gid=928437924 Google doc] |
− | * | + | ===== To do : ===== |
− | * | + | * Link to be added in GitHub readme |
+ | * Add a column “source” or “reference” | ||
+ | * Verify English translations | ||
+ | * Discuss unclear points | ||
+ | * Designate one person per language | ||
+ | ===== Discussion: ===== | ||
+ | * BuildingTypeValue: | ||
+ | ** Source: physical architecture typology comes frome TABULA project (now EPISCOPE) | ||
+ | ** Issues: Make all labels identical: “XX building” | ||
+ | * Agree on high-level values -> plan an online meeting (Usman, Lydia CSTB, Emilien CSTB, Romain, Mariam, Joachim) | ||
+ | * Create expanded version (subvalues) for more clarity, precision? -> discussion on subvalues for next version | ||
+ | * CurrentUseValue: | ||
+ | ** Source: Geomark city project | ||
+ | * See: CityGML codelist (Joachim to provide URL link) | ||
+ | * EnergySourceValue: | ||
+ | ** Work on definitions needed -> all | ||
+ | * OccupantTypeValue: | ||
+ | ** Work on definitions needed -> all | ||
+ | * OfficialAreaReferenceValue: | ||
+ | ** Issue: not one national way to measure net surface -> should use possibility to define surface type | ||
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− | ==== | + | ==== Store Energy Simulation results / inputs ==== |
− | <b>[mailto: | + | <b>[mailto:joachim.benner@kit.edu Joachim Benner ]</b> (KIT)<br/> |
− | <i>Presentation:</i> [[media: | + | <i>Presentation:</i> [[media:KIT-Proposals-EnergyADE.pdf| PDF file]] of the slides<br/> |
− | + | ===== Issues : ===== | |
− | * | + | * Automatic generation of a diagram legend -> optional character string “thematicDescription” in TimeSeriesProperties (a dataType does not have a gml_name!) |
− | ** | + | ** WeatherData -> need to be aggregated in a WeatherStation |
− | ** | + | ** Q/ generalization to noise etc.? -> this is domain specific (inside Energy ADE) |
− | ** | + | ** Q/ what if sensor inside building? -> not weather… |
− | * | + | ** Q/ context can sometimes have a big impact on measurements -> add a human-readable description for all additional info |
− | ** | + | ** Q/ will there be a Sensor module in CityGML 3.0? -> No… |
− | ** | + | * EnergySimulationResults: metadata, link to raw data, … |
− | ** | + | ** Q/ what conceptual difference between simulated and measured data? -> none, but it is difficult to work on too generic feature types -> Pb: some simulation outputs are inputs for other simulations -> this is simulation metadata (input data, simulation model used, date…) |
− | + | ** Add a code snipet, or contact person? | |
− | + | ** Value: can be Measure or TimeSeries -> include only aggregated values in CityGML? -> Pb: co-simulation needs the extensive simulation results | |
+ | * -> Need to look into the Sensor ML (with metadata, sensor can be real or virtual) + Observations ML (supports external references), which are parts of Sensor Observation Service -> dedicated WG/online meeting on simulation results and measurements (Kanishk, Joachim, Pascal, Romain) + create a milestone on Github linked to all related issues, with definition of both “measurements” and “results” | ||
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− | ==== | + | ==== PostgreSQL-based extension 3DCityDB for energy ADE 0.8.0 ==== |
− | <b>[mailto: | + | <b>[mailto:Giorgio.Agugiaro@ait.ac.at Giorgio Agugiaro]</b> (AIT)<br/> |
− | <i>Presentation:</i> [[media: | + | <i>Presentation:</i> [[media:20170523_Agugiaro_Energy_ADE_Workshop_7_3DCityDB.pdf| PDF file]] of the slides<br/> |
− | * | + | * Growing demand for an ADE-aware DB solution |
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− | <b>[mailto: | + | <b>[mailto:kanishk.chaturvedi@tum.de Kanishk Chaturvedi]</b> (TUM)<br/> |
− | <i>Presentation:</i> [[media: | + | <i>Presentation:</i> [[media:Dynamizer_Kanishk_Chaturvedi.pdf| PDF file]] of the slides<br/> |
− | * | + | * “Mini Sensor Observation Service” (mini SOS): lightweight service |
− | * | + | ** work with arbitrary tabular data source (including ADE Dynamizer) |
− | * | + | ** provide multiple interfaces |
− | * | + | * -> explicit link to Sensor |
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− | <b>[mailto: | + | <b>[mailto:pascal.schetelat@cstb.fr Pascal Schetelat]</b> (CSTB)<br/> |
− | <i>Presentation:</i> [[media: | + | <i>Presentation:</i> [[media:2017_05_22_ADE_testing_automation.pdf| PDF file]] of the slides<br/> |
− | * | + | Motivation: ensure coherence in the GitHub repository (UML file, guidelines, sample files, 3DCityDB SQL schema) |
− | * | + | * Testing what can be automated : |
− | * | + | * Test sample files against latest energy.xsd schema implemented on the GitHub repository |
− | * | + | * For all WG: create sample files with explicit names so they can be both tested and integrated into the guidelines |
− | + | * Schematron compliance | |
− | + | ** Works in principle, but little practical impact because very simple | |
+ | ** More useful would be geometric checking… but this would need a geometric module | ||
+ | * Generation of 3DCityDB SQL schema? -> Not yet | ||
+ | * 3D Validation : can City Dr be used ? | ||
+ | * Class generation for different languages? -> Interests in Java and Python | ||
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− | <b>[mailto: | + | <b>[mailto:joachim.benner@kit.edu Joachim – KIT and Jérôme – Kaemco ]</b> (KIT / Kaemco)<br/> |
− | <i>Presentation:</i> [[media: | + | <i>Presentation:</i> [[media:KIT-EnergySimulation-Workflow.pdf| PDF file]] of the slides<br/> |
− | * | + | * GUI for manual enrichment of CityGML files |
− | * | + | * Use of CityGML LoD2: compromise between availability and functionality |
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Latest revision as of 13:21, 5 June 2017
TODO List
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Make new branch the default branch, but make the releases clearly visible on the frontpage | ASAP | CSTB |
Agree on partners listed in the licence | ASAP | All WG leaders |
Give written accord to the Apache Licence | ASAP | All listed partners |
Feedback on availability for the next workshop : Options November 7, 8, 14, 15 or Decembre 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 | ASAP | All partners |
Codelist : Agree on high-level values. Plan an online meeting | Before next workshop | Luca, Usman, Lydia CSTB, Emilien CSTB, Romain, Mariam, Joachim |
Dedicated WG/online meeting on simulation results and measurements + create milestone on Github | Before next workshop | Kanishk, Joachim, Pascal, Romain |
Guidelines and testing automation : create stand alone sample files with explicit names to be as example | Before next workshop | All WG |
Notes
Presentations and Minutes
Welcome on behalf CSTB + Presentation of Activities of CSTB relying on CityGMLPascal Schetelat (CSTB)
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Report on the last semester (All WG leaders)Romain Nouvel (HFT Stuttgart) Mentimeter quiz on:
Activity :
Organisation :
Problem: there are often collisions between several issues Process:
Deadlines:
Timeline for v1.0 :Before v1.0 there needs to be testing on real case tools… we need to accelerate on this in upcoming semester
Apache license 2.0:
Next meeting: Karlsruhe
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Codelist concrete implementationLuca Giovannini (Dedagroup Public Sector & Utilities) Working document on Google doc To do :
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Store Energy Simulation results / inputsJoachim Benner (KIT) Issues :
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PostgreSQL-based extension 3DCityDB for energy ADE 0.8.0Giorgio Agugiaro (AIT)
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Temporal data and Dynamizer ModuleKanishk Chaturvedi (TUM)
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Testing automation (Pascal – CSTB)Pascal Schetelat (CSTB)
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Feedback on Energy ADE application in simulation tools (Joachim – KIT and Jérôme – Kaemco)Joachim – KIT and Jérôme – Kaemco (KIT / Kaemco)
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